The
Relief Society President of a Ward is a Prophetess:
The
Original Poster said that Priesthood is Government. He is 100%
correct, except he isn't using the term that the Lord uses. The term
that the Lord uses is “Presidency”; and, one of the Roles of the
Melchizedek Priesthood is “To Preside” over the different quorums
and auxiliaries of the True Church of God.
God's
house is a House of Order, because it is the Lord's House. Where
else do we see any of this called The House of the Lord? We see it
in the LDS Temples. What do we see in the LDS Temples? We see a
Presidency of the Temple, particularly a Temple President, and he is
always male. He presides over the whole functioning of his
particular Temple that he has been assigned to.
The
whole pattern was set in Heaven, the Ultimate Temple of God, the
Celestial Kingdom, where we each were before being born here. So,
what do we see there in the Temple of God? Once again, we see a
First Presidency who Preside over everything that goes on in the
Celestial Kingdom; and, they each are male. We have God the Father,
Christ Jehovah, and the Holy Ghost. They each have been ordained to
the Office of God in the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood; and, they
preside over the whole of Heaven and act as a Presidency.
So,
where do the women fit into all of this? The knee-jerk reaction is
to say that they don't; but, that simply is NOT true. And now, I
will show you why.
Let's
go back to the Camp of Israel and Moses. Moses held the Melchizedek
priesthood, and thus, he Presided over the whole camp of Israel. Did
Moses have a counselor or two that were the potential makings of the
First Presidency? Yes, Moses had his brother Aaron, and his
Melchizedek Priesthood holding father-in-law Jethro, who often gave
Moses counsel and advice. Moses was commanded to call seventy of the
Elders, and Moses took them up Mount Sinai and introduced them
face-to-face to the Lord. I personally believe that there was the
potential foundation for twelve apostles in the group of 12 sent to
scout out the land; but, they fell and with the exception of Joshua
and Caleb, never received the Melchizedek Priesthood. So, once
again, what does this have to do with women? If you say nothing,
then you have said incorrectly.
Who
else is there by Moses' side functioning in a Priesthood Role as a
Prophetess and as the Relief Society President for the whole Camp of
Israel? Moses' sister Miriam was the one who had hands laid on her
head and was set apart as the Prophetess and set apart as the Relief
Society President; and, Miriam Presided in a Prieshood Role within
the Camp of Israel. She was the real deal!
So,
what do we have today in the True Church of God, the LDS Church?
Each ward in the LDS Church has a Relief Society President; and, she
functions in a Priesthood Role. She Presides over or governs all of
the sisters in her ward. The Relief Society President of a ward is
The Prophetess for her ward, because she has been set apart to that
Priesthood Role and has been authorized to Preside, govern, and
function as the Prophetess of her ward. What else do we see? The
Prophetess of the ward calls counselors to help her Preside, and they
become the Relief Society Presidency of the ward.
All
of these LDS sisters who are making a fuss about all of this simply
do NOT realize that they have already been given exactly what they
are asking for. It's already there. It was there back in Moses'
time, and it is here now. The Relief Society Presidency of each LDS
ward are Prophetesses, and they have been set apart to Preside as a
Presidency over the sisters in their ward.
So,
what do we see at the General Level of the LDS Church. You can guess
it, because the pattern fits. We see a General Presidency of the
Relief Society, and they are Prophetesses who have been set apart to
a Priesthood Role by the laying on of hands to function as a
Presidency and to Preside over all of the sisters in the LDS Church.
The Prophetesses or Relief Society Presidency attend LDS General
Conference, sit on the stand Presiding over the sisters in the Church
during the whole Conference, and they are periodically called up to
the podium to speak to the whole Church, just like any of the other
brethren who have been called to Preside over the whole Church.
The
General Relief Society Presidency is every bit as much real and
potent as the First Presidency of the LDS Church. The Prophetesses
who Preside and serve in the LDS Church have as much (and possibly
even more) influence over the LDS Church as a whole, than the First
Presidency have. Why? I believe that there are more women in the
LDS Church than there are men. Think about it for awhile.
The
sisters who fight for ordination don't know or understand what they
are talking about or asking for. They do not realize that they have
already been given exactly what they are asking for, except in the
LDS Church it is called “setting apart” instead of “ordination”
where the women are concerned. But, the net result is exactly the
same. If you want to look at it this way. The General LDS Relief
Society Presidency preside over the women; and, the First Presidency
of the Melchizedek Priesthood preside over the men. They both
function in a Priesthood Role.
If
the Lord were to ordain the rebellious sisters to an office in the
Priesthood, they wouldn't know what to do with it and would NOT be
able to function properly in that role, because offices in the
Priesthood are a male role and are part of the Priest-hood and is for
Priests, not Priestesses. Likewise, it is NOT proper or fitting for
the Lord to set apart a man as the President of the Relief Society or
as Prophetess of the ward, because that is a female role in the Holy
Priesthood, and a man simply does not fit there functioning as a
Priestess in the Kingdom of God.
The
rebellious LDS sisters would have no place in the Lord's plan if they
were suddenly ordained as Priests (the brethren would not be
authorized to follow them), especially given the fact that many of
their sisters have already been set apart to function as Priestesses
and Prophetesses in the LDS Church. There's no need and no logic for
women to be ordained as Priests in the LDS Church; but, there is
great logic and need for the women to be set apart as Prophetesses
and Priestesses and Relief Society Presidencies within the LDS
Church.
The
rebellious LDS sisters wouldn't know what to do with an office in the
Priesthood, because they can't even see that the Lord has already
called Prophetesses into the LDS Church and set them apart into a
Priesthood Role to preside over all the sisters in the LDS Church.
The rebellious sisters wouldn't be able to work within the system
that the Lord has already established for the government of His
sisters, if the Lord suddenly started ordaining them to offices in
the Melchizedek Priesthood instead. It would make no sense for the
Lord to do so. It would destroy the order and the plan.
The
Melchizedek Priesthood is given by the Lord to the men. The role of
Prophetess or Relief Society President is given by the Lord to the
women. A man cannot function as a Prophetess and as a Relief Society
President any more than a woman can function as a Prophet and a
Melchizedek Priesthood holder. They are simply different Roles
within the Priesthood of God.
Are
you seeing it yet?
The
Lord has a plan, and He knows exactly what He is doing. His system
of government or Presidency is a proven system that has been used to
success for the whole of Eternity, and it will be used to success for
the Eternities to come. Who was the first Relief Society President
or the first Prophetess on this earth? Who was the first woman set
apart to that Role in the Holy Priesthood of God. It was mother Eve.
She was the first woman set apart to that Priesthood Role.
The
women function as Prophetesses; and, the men function as Prophets.
It would be foolishness for a man to try to function as a Prophetess,
just as it would be foolishness for a woman to try to function as a
Prophet.
Once
again, the rebellious LDS sisters already have exactly what they are
asking for, but they have blinded themselves to it, and cannot see
it. But, it is already there waiting for them, within the LDS
Church. It's like the fruit on the Tree of Life. All they have to
do is be willing to reach out their hands and partake of it. They
are free to do so any time they want to.
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I
know that some people have blinded themselves to all of this, so let
me try to present this in a way that maybe some of them might
understand.
As a man, and as a Melchizedek Priesthood holder, I would NOT want a priestess or prophetess there in the LDS Temple performing initiatory work on me. Some part of me rebels at the idea. I wouldn't want a woman ordained as a Priest and functioning as a Priest while initiatory work is being performed on me.
Likewise, I am 100% sure that as a Prophetess or a Priestess in the LDS Church who submits herself to initiatory work in the LDS Temples, she would NOT want a male Priest there performing the initiatory work upon her.
It makes no sense for a man to try to function as a Priestess and as a Prophetess in the Priesthood Roles that are assigned to the women. The women would rebel at the idea, if the male Priests were doing initiatory work on the females.
Likewise, it would make no sense for God to ordain women to be Priests, and then have those women there in the LDS Temples performing Priestly roles upon the men during initiatory work. Do the women who want to be ordained as Priests in the LDS Church really want to be there in the "male locker room" performing initiatory work upon the males in the LDS Temples? Is that what they really want? Or, would these rebellious sisters rather be Priestesses instead, and function in the "female locker room" performing initiatory work upon the females in the LDS Temples?
They need to stop and think what they are asking for and fighting for, whenever these women are fighting to become Priests in the LDS Church. I don't think that most women in the LDS Church would enjoy functioning as Priests in the LDS Church. Ask the LDS women if they would like to function as Priests on the male side of the initiatory process in the LDS Temples! And, I know that most women in the LDS would NOT like to see men functioning as Priestesses in the LDS Church and the LDS Temples. But, Satan has successfully blinded some people to the reality of these things.
Think about what these rebellious sisters are really asking for, and then have them ask themselves if they really do want to be functioning as Priests in the "male locker room" in the Temples of God. Send the message on to them for me. Do they really want that? Do they really want to be ordained as Priests and to function as Priests doing initiatory work on males and working in the male locker rooms of the LDS Temples? Is that really what they want for themselves for the rest of Eternity? Or, would these rebellious sisters rather function as Priestesses within the Priesthood of God and stay among their own gender while the initiatory work is being done?
Do these rebellious sisters really want men functioning as Priestesses and the men doing Priestess type work upon them while they are there in the LDS Temples? Would they really like it or appreciate it, if the Lord were to give them exactly what they are asking for? Do these women really want to function as Priests given all that that would entail? Or, would they rather function as Priestesses?
If these women would rather function as Priests than function as Priestesses in the LDS Temples, that's actually kind of creepy to me. What do you think? Would you want these rebellious sisters there in the "male locker room" functioning as Priests doing initiatory work on you, if you were male? Well, I imagine that some men wouldn't mind it, but again, that's kind of a creepy thought too. But, if that's what these rebellious sisters really want, if they really want to be Priests functioning as Priests on the male side of the aisle, then I can tell you right now that the Lord will not let it happen. Likewise, the Lord will not let men be set apart as Priestesses and then have the men over in the women's locker room performing initiatory work on the women, no matter how many men might be eager to do so.
Look before you leap. Think about what you are really asking for, before you ask.
As a man, and as a Melchizedek Priesthood holder, I would NOT want a priestess or prophetess there in the LDS Temple performing initiatory work on me. Some part of me rebels at the idea. I wouldn't want a woman ordained as a Priest and functioning as a Priest while initiatory work is being performed on me.
Likewise, I am 100% sure that as a Prophetess or a Priestess in the LDS Church who submits herself to initiatory work in the LDS Temples, she would NOT want a male Priest there performing the initiatory work upon her.
It makes no sense for a man to try to function as a Priestess and as a Prophetess in the Priesthood Roles that are assigned to the women. The women would rebel at the idea, if the male Priests were doing initiatory work on the females.
Likewise, it would make no sense for God to ordain women to be Priests, and then have those women there in the LDS Temples performing Priestly roles upon the men during initiatory work. Do the women who want to be ordained as Priests in the LDS Church really want to be there in the "male locker room" performing initiatory work upon the males in the LDS Temples? Is that what they really want? Or, would these rebellious sisters rather be Priestesses instead, and function in the "female locker room" performing initiatory work upon the females in the LDS Temples?
They need to stop and think what they are asking for and fighting for, whenever these women are fighting to become Priests in the LDS Church. I don't think that most women in the LDS Church would enjoy functioning as Priests in the LDS Church. Ask the LDS women if they would like to function as Priests on the male side of the initiatory process in the LDS Temples! And, I know that most women in the LDS would NOT like to see men functioning as Priestesses in the LDS Church and the LDS Temples. But, Satan has successfully blinded some people to the reality of these things.
Think about what these rebellious sisters are really asking for, and then have them ask themselves if they really do want to be functioning as Priests in the "male locker room" in the Temples of God. Send the message on to them for me. Do they really want that? Do they really want to be ordained as Priests and to function as Priests doing initiatory work on males and working in the male locker rooms of the LDS Temples? Is that really what they want for themselves for the rest of Eternity? Or, would these rebellious sisters rather function as Priestesses within the Priesthood of God and stay among their own gender while the initiatory work is being done?
Do these rebellious sisters really want men functioning as Priestesses and the men doing Priestess type work upon them while they are there in the LDS Temples? Would they really like it or appreciate it, if the Lord were to give them exactly what they are asking for? Do these women really want to function as Priests given all that that would entail? Or, would they rather function as Priestesses?
If these women would rather function as Priests than function as Priestesses in the LDS Temples, that's actually kind of creepy to me. What do you think? Would you want these rebellious sisters there in the "male locker room" functioning as Priests doing initiatory work on you, if you were male? Well, I imagine that some men wouldn't mind it, but again, that's kind of a creepy thought too. But, if that's what these rebellious sisters really want, if they really want to be Priests functioning as Priests on the male side of the aisle, then I can tell you right now that the Lord will not let it happen. Likewise, the Lord will not let men be set apart as Priestesses and then have the men over in the women's locker room performing initiatory work on the women, no matter how many men might be eager to do so.
Look before you leap. Think about what you are really asking for, before you ask.
The
idea of the homogeneity of the sexes is a Satanic idea. Think about
it. In Satan's program, there are no gender roles, and the sexes are
equal and are the same in their fallen and hellish state. There is
no difference between the males and the females in hell, because
there is no need to be either male or female in order to function in
hell. They cannot procreate. One's gender makes no difference
whatsoever in hell. The fight for the equality of the sexes or for a
sexless or neuter existence is pointless and powerless to go
anywhere, and it is exactly what Satan wants for us. Where there is
no sex, the people perish. They become a dead-end, rather than the
path to Eternal Life. The fight for "equality" or the
fight for ERA is pointless, because it's exactly what Satan wants for
us; and, thus it has no part in the Lord's Gospel or the Lord's
Church.
However,
in Heaven and the Celestial Kingdom, there are indeed Gender-based
Roles; and, the Males will never function in the Priesthood Roles
that belong to the females; and, the females will never function in
the male-based Priesthood Roles that have been given to the males.
The LDS initiatory work in the LDS Temples tells us that it is so.
The Gender-based Roles of the Holy Priesthood of God are carefully
designed for the furtherance of Life. Christ came to give us life
and to give it more abundantly. That's why there are Gods in Heaven,
and that's why there are Goddesses in Heaven. Each are necessary for
the furtherance of God's plans. However, it makes no sense for God
to try to perform as a Goddesses, because He simply cannot do so.
Likewise, there is really no need for a Goddess to try to perform as
a God, because She already has a male God there to do that work for
her.
I
have discussed the Holy Ghost in another essay I wrote. The Holy
Ghost in the Godhead is male. However, I personally believe that
there are female Holy Spirits who function as sort of a Female Relief
Society there in Heaven, and these holy female spirits function fully
in Holy Ghost type Priesthood Roles under the guidance of the male
God who presides over the whole Holy Ghost business. These Holy
Spirits who function in the Holy Ghost Priesthood Role are
foreordained and destined to become future Goddesses in the Kingdom
of God, the Celestial Kingdom.
The
essay is found here:
http://ofgodandgoddesses.blogspot.com/2014/05/of-god-and-goddesses-supplementary.html
It
is the first one that is called, "Of the Holy Ghost". It
proposes and explores some of the same things that the Original
Poster is presenting here.
“They
don't want that. They want to serve as deacons, teachers and
priestesses and hold governing offices in the church like bishop.”
Again,
these rebellious sisters already have exactly what they are asking
for, but they can't see it.
Deacon
is a Male Office in the Aaronic Priesthood.
Teacher
is a Male Office in the Aaronic Priesthood.
Priest
is a Male Office in the Aaronic Priesthood.
Priestess
is a Female Calling within the Holy Priesthood, and it is found in
the LDS Temple. A female LDS Temple Officiator is called and set
apart to that Priesthood Role within the Melchizedek Priesthood.
When
given to a man, Officiator is a Male Calling in the Melchizedek
Priesthood.
When
given to a woman, Officiator is a Female Calling or a Female Role
within the Melchizedek Priesthood.
Bishop
is a Male Calling and a Male Ordination within the Aaronic
Priesthood.
Stake
President is a Male Calling in the Melchizedek Priesthood, and so is
Elder's Quorum President. Do these rebellious sisters really want to
be Elder's Quorum Presidents? It's not going to happen.
What
are the female counterparts to the male callings in the Priesthood?
The
Relief Society President is a Female Calling or a Female Role within
the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood of God.
The
Relief Society President of a ward is the "bishop" over the
sisters in the ward. Think about it. The Female Relief Society
President in a ward functions as a "bishop' in her ward and is
responsible for all the sisters in her ward.
The
Relief Society President in a ward GOVERNS over the sisters in her
ward, just like a Bishop of a ward governs over the male Priests in
his ward.
Notice
that the sisters SKIP all of the Aaronic Priesthood Roles and go
straight on into the Melchizedek Priesthood Roles! The sisters are
not bothered or pestered by the mundane Roles of the Aaronic
Priesthood.
Godhood
is an ordained position in the Melchizedek Priesthood, and it is only
for the males.
Being
set apart as a Goddess is the premier or highest Calling and Role
within the Melchizedek Priesthood, and it is only for the females.
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